As far as I’m concerned, what she
presented as “the only reason to believe” isn’t even a reason at all. Firstly,
it’s nothing more than a threat: do this, or you’ll be punished. But secondly,
the nature of the threat is such that the only way to take it seriously is if
you already believe anyway.
Let me see if I can make an
illustration. Suppose I were to tell you that Frodo Baggins saved us all from
eternal enslavement by destroying the One Ring. Furthermore, I tell you that if
you don’t believe me, the dark wizard Sauron would cart you off to Mordor to
torture you for the rest of your life. Would you find that a compelling
argument to believe that there’s a real-life Frodo Baggins who saved us from
real-life enslavement by destroying a real-life One Ring? Barring serious
issues separating reality from fantasy, I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t give that
argument a moment’s consideration for one simple reason: you probably don’t
believe Sauron or Mordor are real. Therefore, the threat isn’t real. It can’t
possibly frighten you.
But even so, what if I were to tell
you that if you didn’t believe that Frodo Baggins saved us all from eternal
enslavement by destroying the One Ring, I
would imprison you and torture you. That seems a little more of a threat,
right? I exist, after all, and you can probably satisfy yourself of this fact
to a reasonable degree of certainty. So maybe you would tell me that you believe
in Frodonic salvation, for the sake of avoiding torture. But you wouldn’t really believe it, now, would you? You
wouldn’t be actually convinced of the
existence of a humble Hobbit and his ring of invisibility. Because the threat
has absolutely nothing to do with demonstrating the truth of the claim.
Oh, also, I imagine you’d probably
consider it pretty immoral of me to make such a threat to begin with.
To bring it a little closer to home:
suppose I were to tell you (assuming you’re religious) that if you didn’t stop
believing in your god, you would be tortured or killed. Not only would you
probably not find that a compelling reason to change your actual belief (even
if it compels you to tell me you did), but you’d think I’m an asshole (if not
outright evil) for making the threat. Guess what: it’s no different when you do
it. And it’s no different when the writer of a “holy book” does it, either.
So what it comes down to is this: if
you ever find yourself on the point of saying that the only reason to believe
in your god is hell, or eternal damnation, or anything similar, you’re really
at the point of admitting that there’s no reason whatsoever.
EVOLUTION
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Latest thinking comfirm Evolution is invalid or false .SOMETHING over writes Time. (Destiny)
“I am in your individuality but you do not observe” ( sura dahriyat.Quran 51:21) EVOLUTION is An attempt to change humen thinking in wrong direction based on Time. Humen or Water (h2o) is not product of Time, Time will not change water (h2o). Atomic and molecular weight of all elements or compounds will remain same on earth or distant planets in universe. There is SOMETHING permanent in universe.
Evolution Theory succumb in concept of Time. Time is relative standard.....(Einstein). In reality Time does not Exist. Time is illusion or 4th Dimension. What will be definite proof that Evolution Theory is invalid or False....?? It is water H2O ... In billion years Water H2O remained unaffected by Time...... Water H2O is not a product of Time..Whooooo created water ??No Water, no life, No evolution, No natural selection..Water is a phenomena out of time, a rule over nature. When Time fails Evolution fails. An instant knock out of whole Evolution theory, so called Darwinism.
If life is an accident Then every incident happening in this world will demand an accident. Even existance of a piece of Bulshit cannot be confirmed without a Bull...So from where two cars will come to cause an Accident. What will be definite proof that life is not an accident, Just throw a bag of rice mixed with vinegar in a dark warm place, within 48 hours you will see bag of rice turned into full of life, ( worms) Throw it again if it happens again then this incident ( life ) is not an accident, example is silly but it points out a big mistake in evolution history. ..life is not an Accident but conditional (Confirmed)
H20 ( water) is a permanent condition in nature which caused diversity of life on earth. Scriptures says life is created not evolved from water" And God created every animal from water " ( Quran 24:45 ) . What will be definite proof that life is created and not evolved ?? It is water H2O. Water suffered no evolution from another source as a product of time thus Water lack co ordination and stability with time to aid a billion years evolutionery process . If water is found in another planet, still water cannot be designated as product of Time, H2O is A permanent law or command written by PEN in nature (destiny) which will contnue to display any where in universe where oxygen and hydrogen is available. If life is an Accident then Life may be found in another planet even that planet is made of copper. For An accident cannot be dependent on another factor like water..if a Pre-condition like water is a requirement for an accident (life) to happen,then this life must be A divine plan.
Time is not a cause Time is not a real entity or quantity. Time is nooothing.. Null...00.. Nada (void of self). To validate evolution theory you must establish A definition of Time, it is not possible. Did you ever think or ask yourself a question WHAT IS TIME ??? your mind will go blank, Time will create a delusion in your psyco, beacuse Time itself is illusion, In mathematical term time is variable,Relative and unstable .To understand Einstiens space time theory you need to grow wrinkles on your forhead likeEinstein.
1 Kg, 1 Lbs, 1 Km, 1 Mile, 1 Minute, 1 Hour, 1 Year ,100 Years, Million years, Billion years, Time is a relative standard (Einstein) Water is not a product of time, Atomic and Molecular weight of all elements and componds will remain same unaffected and unchanged by Time until eternity. Even number of smallest praticle electrons and protons, will remain same on this earth or another planet. . TIME FAILED HERE AS ETERNAL CAUSE.......... Evolution is invalid or false (confirmed
I'm not normally that person who harps on people's writing style, but what you've written is nearly. And since this is obviously something you cut-and-paste in multiple places, I strongly urge you to have it looked at by someone whose English writing you respect. Maybe they can whip it into readable shape.
DeleteNow.. as to what (I think) you've said...
1) Firstly, you're trying to debunk evolution as a comment to a blog post that has nothing to do with evolution. So, poor job on understanding the conversation.
2) You seem to claim that evolution must be false because it requires time, and time does not exist. But the way you present it seems to be an argument against causality itself. You see, time is the frame through which we understand causality - one event following another in a causal chain. It may be that our understanding of time is flawed, even drastically so, but to argue that evolution must be false because time doesn't exist is literally to claim that all causal events must be false for the same reason. You might as well claim that you didn't write this post, because writing posts requires time and time doesn't exist. Or that children don't grow up, because growing up requires time and time doesn't exist. Evolution bears the exact same relation to time that those events do, the only difference being the amount.
Also, one of your later examples (worms growing on rice) explicitly requires the passage of time (you specifically name 48 hours). Well, again, that growth has the exact same time dependence that evolution has, the difference being only in quantity. For this argument to make any sense at all, you would have to be able to describe why the "nonexistence" of time allows the growth of children and worms, and the writing of blog posts, while somehow still excluding evolution. I doubt that you can.
So this argument is inconsistent, incoherent, and unsupported. Therefore, it should be rejected.
3) You seem to claim that life can't be accidental because it requires a precondition: water. Well, think of any accident you have ever observed. Didn't it require preconditions? A person can't fall down the stairs unless there are already stairs, and a person, and probably a moment of inattention. And yet it is still an accident. The word "accident" doesn't refer to things that happen without a cause or catalyst, but rather things that happen without *intention.* And everything we know about chemistry indicates that chemical reactions - even complex ones such as are required by life - can happen without intention. So this argument, too, is rejected.
3) You seem to claim that water is eternal, as are all elements and compounds. This, to all evidence, is untrue. Water is a compound of Hydrogen and Oxygen. It can be converted into those constituent elements through the process of electrolysis. Those elements can be combined back into water through a large number of possible reactions, including any combustion (burning) of hydrocarbons. Since water can be (and is) routinely created and destroyed, it cannot be accurately called eternal.
Are you aware of what radioactive decay is? It's the process by which unstable atoms lose mass and energy in the form of radiation. This is exactly the process that fuels nuclear power plants, and elements that do this spontaneously in large amounts (such as Uranium) are said to be radioactive. The process results in the atomic weight changing, and in some forms or radioactive decay the atoms turn into a different element altogether. Please Google it - it's pretty interesting stuff.
I don't know what level of education you have had, but I assure you that this is high-school-level science at most and well established both in theory and application. So it'll take more than your assertion that water and atomic weights are eternal and unchanging to convince me that you're right.
That's everything that seemed in the least comprehensible, and none of it was even remotely convincing.
EVOLUTION
ReplyDeleteTHEORY FALLEN SHORT
Latest thinking comfirm Evolution is invalid or false .SOMETHING over writes Time. (Destiny)
“I am in your individuality but you do not observe” ( sura dahriyat.Quran 51:21) EVOLUTION is An attempt to change humen thinking in wrong direction based on Time. Humen or Water (h2o) is not product of Time, Time will not change water (h2o). Atomic and molecular weight of all elements or compounds will remain same on earth or distant planets in universe. There is SOMETHING permanent in universe.
Evolution Theory succumb in concept of Time. Time is relative standard.....(Einstein). In reality Time does not Exist. Time is illusion or 4th Dimension. What will be definite proof that Evolution Theory is invalid or False....?? It is water H2O ... In billion years Water H2O remained unaffected by Time...... Water H2O is not a product of Time..Whooooo created water ??No Water, no life, No evolution, No natural selection..Water is a phenomena out of time, a rule over nature. When Time fails Evolution fails. An instant knock out of whole Evolution theory, so called Darwinism.
If life is an accident Then every incident happening in this world will demand an accident. Even existance of a piece of Bulshit cannot be confirmed without a Bull...So from where two cars will come to cause an Accident. What will be definite proof that life is not an accident, Just throw a bag of rice mixed with vinegar in a dark warm place, within 48 hours you will see bag of rice turned into full of life, ( worms) Throw it again if it happens again then this incident ( life ) is not an accident, example is silly but it points out a big mistake in evolution history. ..life is not an Accident but conditional (Confirmed)
H20 ( water) is a permanent condition in nature which caused diversity of life on earth. Scriptures says life is created not evolved from water" And God created every animal from water " ( Quran 24:45 ) . What will be definite proof that life is created and not evolved ?? It is water H2O. Water suffered no evolution from another source as a product of time thus Water lack co ordination and stability with time to aid a billion years evolutionery process . If water is found in another planet, still water cannot be designated as product of Time, H2O is A permanent law or command written by PEN in nature (destiny) which will contnue to display any where in universe where oxygen and hydrogen is available. If life is an Accident then Life may be found in another planet even that planet is made of copper. For An accident cannot be dependent on another factor like water..if a Pre-condition like water is a requirement for an accident (life) to happen,then this life must be A divine plan.
Time is not a cause Time is not a real entity or quantity. Time is nooothing.. Null...00.. Nada (void of self). To validate evolution theory you must establish A definition of Time, it is not possible. Did you ever think or ask yourself a question WHAT IS TIME ??? your mind will go blank, Time will create a delusion in your psyco, beacuse Time itself is illusion, In mathematical term time is variable,Relative and unstable .To understand Einstiens space time theory you need to grow wrinkles on your forhead likeEinstein.
1 Kg, 1 Lbs, 1 Km, 1 Mile, 1 Minute, 1 Hour, 1 Year ,100 Years, Million years, Billion years, Time is a relative standard (Einstein) Water is not a product of time, Atomic and Molecular weight of all elements and componds will remain same unaffected and unchanged by Time until eternity. Even number of smallest praticle electrons and protons, will remain same on this earth or another planet. . TIME FAILED HERE AS ETERNAL CAUSE.......... Evolution is invalid or false